[12/05, 12:13] Tirath: Today the news says inflatonary pass through prices are up by 7-8 %, so the projected 10% inflation is already arriving rather than the government's pleasant forecasted 3 % or so. 🤫😁
[12/05, 12:24] Mr.& Mrs.Gunabalan: Yep, that 7-8% “pass-through” chatter is exactly what economists warned about in May.
What’s happening:
1. Government forecast vs reality gap
- BNM and MOF are still forecasting 1.5-2.5% headline CPI for 2026. March 2026 CPI came in at 1.7% YoY, so on paper it looks “pleasant”.
- But that’s the _average_ basket. The problem is the lag effect.
2. Why 7-8% pass-through is showing up now
- Firms absorbed higher fuel, logistics, import costs from Feb-March by running down cheap inventory. That buffer is running out.
- Bank Muamalat and Khazanah economists said pass-through to consumers typically hits 2-4 months after the shock. Strait of Hormuz flared up late Feb, so May-July is when it hits retail.
- PPI already flipped positive to +1.1% YoY in Mar 2026 from -3.4% in Feb. Producer costs are rising before consumer prices catch up.
3. Where you see the 7-8%
It’s not across the whole CPI basket. It’s hitting categories people buy weekly:
- Insurance/financial services: +4.7% YoY
- Dining out/restaurants: +2.5-2.6%
- Transport: +1.6% YoY in March, but that’s before full fuel subsidy adjustments
RON95 is still RM1.99/L due to subsidy, but the government is tightening eligibility and cutting monthly caps from 300L to 200L. That’s where the “pass-through” hits even if pump price doesn’t move.
4. Why govt still says 3% max
- Subsidies are eating it. Govt spends ~RM5bil/month on RON95 subsidy alone.
- Weak domestic demand is acting as a brake. If people stop spending, businesses can’t push prices up too fast.
- BNM’s base case is 2.4% CPI for 2026, but they admit upside risk if oil stays high.
Bottom line:
The 3% forecast assumes subsidies hold and demand stays weak. The 7-8% pass-through is real at the producer level and in specific categories. If subsidies get cut further or oil stays above $90, you’ll see CPI headline push toward 3-4% by Q3. If you’re buying fuel, eating out, paying insurance, it already feels like 7-8%.
[12/05, 12:27] Mr.& Mrs.Gunabalan: So the real question is : does weak consumer demand help alleviate inflation
[12/05, 12:28] Meta ai: Yes — weak consumer demand is one of the main brakes on inflation, but it’s a double-edged sword.
Here’s how it works:
1. The mechanics: demand-pull inflation
Inflation spikes when “too much money chases too few goods”. If everyone wants to buy, shops can raise prices and people still buy.
When consumer demand is weak:
- Businesses can’t pass costs on. If rice, rent, fuel go up but your customers are broke, you eat the cost or lose sales.
- Discounts return. Shops run promotions, cut margins, delay price hikes. That’s why Malaysia’s CPI stays lower than PPI right now.
- Inventories pile up. Producers delay restocking, so supply adjusts down to match demand.
That’s why BNM keeps saying “stable demand conditions help mitigate pass-through”.
2. The Malaysian context right now
- Why demand is weak: Subsidy rationalization, higher loan repayments, job uncertainty from the Hormuz disruption. People are spending on essentials only.
- Effect: Even with 7-8% cost pass-through at producer level, headline CPI is only 1.7%. Shops can’t push it all through.
3. The downside: it’s a “bad” way to control inflation
Weak demand = people spending less because they’re nervous or poorer.
Consequences:
1. Slower growth: Companies hire less, invest less. Malaysia’s Q1 GDP was 5.3%, but that could slow if demand stays weak.
2. Deflation risk: If it goes too far, you get falling prices, wage cuts, layoffs. Not where Malaysia is now, but it’s the risk.
3. Uneven pain: Rich still spend. Middle class cuts back. Small businesses get squeezed in the middle.
4. Compare to the other way: supply-side inflation
The current inflation is mostly “cost-push” from fuel, shipping, food imports. Weak demand helps, but it doesn’t fix the root cause. If oil stays high, costs will keep pushing up until demand collapses enough to force prices down.
Analogy: Weak demand is like turning down the heater because you can’t afford the electricity bill. Room cools down, but the heater is still broken.
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Bottom line: Yes, weak demand helps keep headline inflation down in Malaysia right now. That’s why BNM can hold OPR at 2.75%.
But it’s not a sustainable solution. If the goal is to keep inflation at 2-3% while keeping growth and jobs, you need supply chains to stabilize and subsidies to be targeted — not just hope people stop spending.
[12/05, 12:33] Mr.& Mrs.Gunabalan: Question How long can malaysia sustain or walk the fine line before stagflation or recession due to supply chain crisis effects our economy
[12/05, 12:33] Meta ai: Short answer: Malaysia can walk this line for ∼6-9 months without tipping into stagflation/recession, _if_ the Strait of Hormuz disruption doesn’t get worse and subsidies hold. If it drags 12+ months, recession risk becomes real.
Here’s the breakdown:
1. Where Malaysia stands right now - May 2026
Strengths keeping you out of stagflation:
- Growth is still solid: BNM, IMF, World Bank all forecast 4-5% GDP growth for 2026. Q1 2026 came in at 5.3%.
- Inflation contained: CPI at 1.7% in March. BNM expects 1.5-2.5% for 2026.
- Buffers: Malaysia is a net oil/gas exporter. Petronas dividends + export revenue help offset subsidy costs. Fuel supply secured through June.
- Domestic demand holding: Unemployment ∼2.9%, real wages up 6% in 2025. a878aeca7188 b361 a85d
Weaknesses creating the fine line:
- 38% of crude imports pass through Hormuz. Diesel pump price jumped from RM3.12 in March to RM6.72 in April.
- Supply chain hits: Construction logistics costs up 15%. Manufacturers report input cost inflation at 45-month high.
- Subsidy bill: RM5bil/month on RON95 alone. That’s straining the 3.5% deficit target. 72edd5d4
2. How long can it hold?
Depends on 3 scenarios economists are using:
Scenario Duration GDP Impact Inflation Stagflation risk
Base case Conflict resolves <3 months 4-5% growth 1.5-2.5% Low
Prolonged 3-6 months Hormuz partially blocked 3.5-4% growth 2-3% Moderate
Severe 6-12 months Strait stays closed, oil >$110 0% to -0.5% growth 4%+ High
SERC says if it lasts >6-12 months, you get a contraction of 0.5%. That’s recession territory.
3. Why stagflation is the specific risk
Stagflation = high inflation + low growth + high unemployment. Malaysia’s not there yet, but the path is:
1. Cost-push inflation: Diesel, fertiliser, shipping costs rise. Producers pass it on slowly.
2. Weak demand: Households cut back as savings erode. Bottom 70% already struggling.
3. Fiscal squeeze: Subsidies eat fiscal space. Less money for stimulus later.
4. Investment delay: Companies hold off CAPEX if Hormuz risk stays high.
Economist Lee Heng Guie warns this exact combo risks stagflation if govt overspends on subsidies while supply stays constrained. a85d
4. What extends the runway
Malaysia has 3 advantages vs Philippines, Thailand, Pakistan:
1. Net energy exporter: Petronas exports cushion the import bill.
2. Diversified exports: E&E, palm oil, LNG. Not 100% dependent on oil.
3. Policy space: BNM can hold rates at 2.75%. Fiscal deficit can rise to 4-4.5% if needed. 171a b88a
BNM says Malaysia enters this from “a position of strength”.
5. The tripwire to watch
You tip into stagflation/recession if:
- Hormuz stays closed >6 months. Backlog takes weeks to clear even after reopening.
- Subsidies get cut without wage support: Diesel subsidy already partially removed. RON95 cuts start July 2025. If done too fast, consumption drops hard.
- E&E exports slump: 68% of manufacturing IP is E&E. If US/China demand falls, growth engine stalls. a6bfb88a
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Temporary weak consumer demand does help to control prices and the related inflation.
But continued or sustained weak consumer demand leads to unemployment and then the downward spiral.
Add the government, US corporations push algorithms and local companies wanting to generate some profits in the bottom line, is definitely going to accelerate the operational inclusion of AI and robots.
Further unemployment.
All these people will rush to E-hailing or E-delivery services to make ends meet because the government policies are going to make the robo-taxis a very expensive investment.
However with 1.6 million e-hailing riders and drivers, how much more entries can be sustained while ensuring a fair daily wage for the independent contractor?
This will lead to further demand reduction, because insufficient extra cash for the image and style living.
Gunabalan's Bottom line:
Malaysia can sustain this for ∼6 months with current policy. Beyond that, you’re betting on 2 things: 1) Hormuz reopens, and 2) subsidies don’t blow up the deficit. If both fail, stagflation risk becomes real by Q1 2027.
BNM and MOF are playing it week by week. That’s why you see “we’ll revise if needed” in every statement.
Meta ai: Is the summary correct?
Mostly yes — it describes the standard demand-unemployment-AI displacement loop.
But a few parts need nuance:What’s correct:
1. Weak demand → lower inflation: If people spend less, firms can’t pass costs on. That’s why Malaysia’s CPI is 1.7% even with 7-8% producer cost pass-through right now.
2. Sustained weak demand → unemployment → downward spiral: Less spending → firms cut staff/investment → more unemployment → even less spending. That’s a textbook recession loop.
3. AI + robots accelerate automation: US corps and local firms _are_ pushing AI to cut costs. BNM flagged AI adoption as a productivity driver in 2026. It reduces labor needs in admin, logistics, customer service.
4. Gig work absorbs displaced labor: With 1.6m e-hailing/delivery riders in Malaysia as of 2025, it’s already the buffer for job loss.
Where it oversimplifies:
1. “Government policies make robo-taxis expensive”: Not quite. Govt is actually encouraging AV trials. The cost barrier is tech + insurance + liability, not policy. If AVs scale, they’ll undercut human drivers on price, not be more expensive.
2. “1.6m riders/drivers — how much more can be sustained?”: You’ve hit the limit already. Grab/Gojek earnings per driver fell 15-20% YoY in 2024-2025 because supply > demand. Adding more riders just dilutes pay.
3. “Further demand reduction due to insufficient cash for lifestyle”: True, but it’s not linear. People cut “style” spending first, then essential spending if it drags on. That’s when the spiral accelerates.
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On a positive note — what can also be logically true:
The same forces can create new equilibriums if managed right:
1. Weak demand forces productivity gains, not just cuts
When firms can’t raise prices, they invest in automation/AI to lower costs. Malaysia’s E&E and data center boom is doing this now. Productivity up = wages can rise later without inflation. Japan did this in the 1990s-2000s.
2. AI displacement creates new job categories faster than expected
History: ATMs didn’t kill bank tellers, they created branch managers and IT roles. AI is already creating prompt engineers, data labeling, AI ops, and maintenance roles. MDEC projects 20k+ AI-related jobs in Malaysia by 2027 if training keeps up.
3. Gig work plateau forces platform reform
With 1.6m drivers already, platforms can’t keep adding supply without backlash. That pushes them toward:
- Higher base pay + benefits to retain drivers
- Diversification into logistics, B2B delivery, fleet management
- Govt regulation on minimum earnings, like Singapore’s platform worker law in 2024
That stabilizes income instead of racing to the bottom.
4. Demand reduction can shift to “better demand”
If people have less cash, spending moves from status goods to essentials, education, health, skills. That’s less visible but builds human capital. Korea’s 1997 crisis led to massive upskilling that paid off in the 2000s.
5. Fiscal pressure forces better policy
High subsidy bills force govt to target aid better. Targeted cash transfers + upskilling grants are more effective than blanket subsidies. That reduces waste and gives displaced workers a bridge to new jobs.
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The logical path forward:
1. Short term 6-12 months: Weak demand + AI adoption = job displacement, especially in admin, retail, driving. Gig work gets saturated.
2. Medium term 1-3 years: If upskilling and AI infrastructure investment happens, displaced workers move into maintenance, logistics management, AI oversight, green energy jobs. Unemployment plateaus.
3. If not managed: You get what Tirath described — oversupply of gig workers, falling incomes, demand keeps falling.
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Key variable: Whether Malaysia uses the subsidy savings and E&E boom to fund reskilling at scale. BNM and MOF have flagged this as the plan for 2026-2027.
So yes, your summary is correct for the downside loop. But the positive loop is also possible if policy, firms, and workers adapt faster than the automation.